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Abbott Laboratories: Typical

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Valuing companies and looking for deep discounts is pretty boring. For the most part, companies are generally priced right around their intrinsic business value which makes finding steals a difficult and often disappointing venture. In fact, it would make for a fairly boring TV show—even if you had bells, whistles, and mooing toys.

Such is the case with Abbott Laboratories.

If you aren"t familiar with Abbott (ABT), it is a manufacturer of pharmaceuticals, medical devices, etc. It is in the game with Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, and the other big, diversified players. It has been around so long that Ben Graham used it in his book The Intelligent Investor two generations ago.

Price follows value. For the most part, the markets are generally efficient—pricing companies right around their intrinsic business value. From time to time, however, the markets give us an opportunity to steal businesses for pennies on the dollar. Or, to put it the popular way—to buy $1 worth of a business for $0.50.

Consistency

Abbott Laboratories is one of those boring, conservative, consistent businesses that generally seems to grow at a boring, conservative, consistent rate. For every dollar of invested capital, it generates roughly $0.15 to $0.18 a year in excess cash. The cash tends to tick up consistently each year at a predictable rate.

Most people would consider Abbott Labs to be a blue chip, boring stock—a conservative investment for the long term. The few that might not? Those are the people that bought ABT without knowing (or estimating) its intrinsic value—ultimately overpaying for the stock when it was grossly overpriced over the past decade.

Growth Rates

Abbott Labs has been chugging along for more than a hundred years. It"s no surprise, then, that the past ten have seen just 9% (or so) growth. Regardless of what the stock price has done, the business has grown at a touch more than 9% a year.

It hasn"t really been a net buyer or seller of its stock, so we can"t expect to get much growth in our ownership from that. When valuing ABT, we have to make assumptions about the future. As such, I"ll assume that it will continue to grow at about 9% for the next three years, then slow to just over 8% for three years, and then slow to 7.5% for the next four. Beyond year 10, I"ll assume ABT will grow at just 5%.

Price and Value

Like most companies—especially most large ones—the price of the stock generally follows (and is often married to) the actual intrinsic value of the company. Such has been the case with Abbott:

Since 1997 (and long before that as well), the stock price has danced around the value of the company—a value I estimate today to be about $52 a share. At times, the price got out of control—sometimes coming in 30% or more higher than the actual value of the company.

Considering that prices are driven by supply and demand, that means that speculators, institutions, and non-business investors were paying 30% or more too much to own a piece of ABT.

The Problem With Giants—Good and Bad

Abbott is huge. Because of that, it would take a miracle to kick this company in the butt and get more than 9% or so growth going forward. That is a bad problem because you can"t expect too much from your company. It is a good problem because you need not expect too many surprises either.

Is There Growth Left In Abbott?

Sure! You can own Abbott when it is fairly priced to its value and reasonably expect your investment to grow at roughly the same rate as the company. You can choose to overpay and expect a lesser return. Or, you can wait for a deep discount and reasonably expect a much greater return.

If you look at the chart again, you"ll see that Abbott never really gave us a chance to buy it at a deep discount. Will it ever? I don"t know. And you know what that means: Keep an eye out for a 50% drop on noise (not news) but move on in the interim.

There"s a whole world of investment opportunities out there just waiting for you to analyze.

Side Note: Spam

I have been working with my web designer to figure out how to curb some of the spam comments that I have been getting—specifically, the 30 or so a day that I have been blocking. I know I am behind on comments and e-mails, but I am swimming in a sea of garbage and trying to sift through it all. If you need cheap airline tickets or viagra, let me know and I'll start letting those comments through. Otherwise, as always, I appreciate your patience and promise to respond to everyone!

 

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Thanks for the post.
Like you said in one of your comments, it's about turning over as many stones as possible to find that hidden gem.

Oh... and I wouldn't mind getting a dose of Viagra on a cheap Southwest flight. =)

by J on December 3, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Hi Joe,

I have tried plugging in the values from morningstar and using your growth rates for the future earnings over the first 10 years then dropping to 5%, the remainder. Firstly I get a Free Cash growth rate of about 10.4%. Then, I get a Per Share Value of about $35. Could you show or share your Xcel sheet for this one? I assume I must have gotten something very wrong with my figures? I am uncertain how you got to your $52 a share value.......many thanks for the education


Stuart



by stuart on December 3, 2007 at 1:11 PM
Joe,

Given that ABT is expected to grow at less then 10% for the next 10 years and then 5% for the following 10. I don't understand how you derived an intrinsic value (according to your graph) around $52. By my calculations you would have had to use a growth rate greater the 15%.

by Dave Miller on December 3, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Okay maybe, my bad. I guess if I put in a discount rate of 9% then I get a value around $50. But of course you know what the next question is, why 9% rather than the 15% default?

Many thanks

Stuart




by stuart on December 3, 2007 at 2:14 PM
I reckon he used the 9% discount because they are a massive industry staple, and very reliable.

by Night on December 3, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Please Joe,

if possible tell me how you go about generating the graph graphics you show for Price against intrinsic value. I have tried importing the data from graphs online, but Excel, doesn't like Flash and Java graphs for data that most sites use.....so how do you plot the share value over the years, where do you get the data?

Many thanks

Stuart



by stuart on December 3, 2007 at 2:50 PM
Nice post, as always.

This hit the spot for me. I'm always nervous of the larger companies, ABT, GE, JNJ, MMM etc. Like you said, how much growth is in these companies. But, buying them when they go on sale knowing you'll get 9% of growth a year and if they have a yield over 2%, your getting an 11% a year return from a blue chip. Not bad if the sale ever comes.

I see it all the time especially in forums and some blogs, they say things like, JNJ is a buy at any price, your buying the brand. I disagree somewhat and your post explains part of the reason why.

FWIW, GE is yielding 3% since the share price is off another 3% today. Sounds like a sale to me...........now about that viagra.

by augustabound on December 3, 2007 at 3:03 PM
augustabound,

Your comments remind me of an article I read regarding JNJ and its yield.
Provided that you did manage to buy it at a 9% discount and with the current yield being 2.45% at first glance you would think that your annual return would be 11.45%.

However, if JNJ continues to increase its yield like it has been doing throughout its history, your return will actually increase yearly as well. It may only be 11% the first year, but if you are long, the return could well be 15-20% eventually.

Very satisfactory in my opinion. So the lure of blue chips for me is the actual yield and whether it will continue to increase.

P.S. Let's try not to sit next to each other when we're high on viagra.

by J on December 3, 2007 at 4:08 PM
Joe,

How do you make those pretty charts?

thanks

erik

by erik on December 4, 2007 at 12:28 AM
Hi all,

Discount Rate: I used the 9% discount rate because it fits nicely into the buy $1 worth of a business for $0.50 model. The 15% discount rate would change that to buy $1 of a business for $0.75 and people didn't seem to like that.

Your discount rate isn't all that important. What matters is that your data and reasoning are correct.

Graphs: I calculate the intrinsic value for the company each year shown and plot it against the stock price. For the early years, I use the actual cash flow of the business so I get a more accurate actual intrinsic value. For the later years, I incorporate my growth assumptions because, well, we don't know exactly what the future will hold yet.

Pretty Charts: Erik, I plot it all in Excel and then import it into a photo editing software I have. Snip, Crop, Resize and boom - pretty graphs for the website!

by Joe Ponzio on December 4, 2007 at 9:29 AM
Hi Joe,

so I have been able to work out how to get the historical data for the closing prices of a company stock price into a chart, using Excel. However, what is really alluding me is what exactly you are using for intrinsic value, and how you work it out for historical data. I thought Intrinsic Value was the Shareholder equity, what would the share holders would get if the company was to close...But then in the comment above you state you use the Freecash Flow I am probably just a little out of whack with what intrinsic value exactly is.....is it Shareholder Equity + FreeCashFlow?

Then finally and this is where I am proabably going most wrong is where do you get the data for number of historical shares issued?

Sorry to be so dull on this, but I am still very much learning and feel I am very much empowered by your teachings but can only branch out to my own analysis if I truely understand if I am doing it right. Thnaks for your patience.

Stuart

by stuart on December 4, 2007 at 4:19 PM
Joe, I wouldn't mind typing in "captcha" to post a message. Captcha is an image verification technique that hampers spammers from commenting on your site and keep this site more interactive.

by Peter Nguyen on December 6, 2007 at 8:59 PM
Stuart,

Intrinsic value is the value of the cash that can be taken out of the business during its remaining life. If the business is going to break-up tomorrow, the intrinsic value would be the break-up value. If it is going to operate for ten years, the intrinsic value would be the cash it can produce and its break-up value.

Take a look at this series of posts: Calculating the Value of a Business. Hope that helps!

Peter: My web designer has implemented a new system for me to minimize spam. The fewer hurdles I put in front of people (e.g., CAPTCHA, registration), the better (I think) our community will be. Of course, if the spammers get out of control, I'll have to do something more.

by Joe Ponzio on December 10, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Hi Joe, I have learned so much through your commentaries, they have only fortified my knowledge gained from reading countless books. I'm greatfull for your insights! It seems that we all stumble on the same companies since there aren't too many excellent opportunities out there. Thank you so much for your help

by Amit Dutt on May 13, 2008 at 8:04 AM
Thanks for the kind words. I just ran a Morningstar screen - 496 companies with positive free cash flow in each of the last ten years, and only 314 have a market cap over $1 billion (where a lot of people look).

We are definitely going to stumble on the same companies!

by Joe Ponzio on May 14, 2008 at 11:02 AM

 

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