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By Joe Ponzio on February 2, 2009  |  27 comments

F Wall Street: The Book

Folks—F Wall Street, the book, is now available for preorder online at Amazon.com and Borders.com. (Barnes & Noble isn't listing it just yet.)

Needless to say, I'm excited!

Amazon.com is listing it at $10.85, a discount to the full price when the final release comes out on June 9, 2009. In the spirit of buying assets on the cheap, now might be a good time to preorder your copy!

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Written by Joe Ponzio on February 2, 2009

Joe Ponzio is the managing partner of the Ponzio Investors Funds and owner of Ponzio Capital Inc, a registered investment advisory and deep value portfolio management firm. The author of F Wall Street (the book and the website), his articles have appeared in hundreds of financial media, including Financial Planning Magazine, CNBC.com, Yahoo! Finance, and Reuters. He has appeared numerous times nationally on both radio and television, and has presented at universities and seminars across the United States.

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Jae Jun
Feb 3rd, 2009
12 comments

Woohoo! Finally able to read a quality book rather than the junk publishers spit out to make money. I'm in. Hope this becomes a best seller and just gotta admit the title is a killer.
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Rene
Feb 3rd, 2009
80 comments

If Rush Limbaugh's fans are called ditto heads, what would out nickname be? Congratulations, I will be ordering just after I do my due diligence...;-)
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William Zelesny
Feb 3rd, 2009
2 comments

Perfect timing. Just finished reading "Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits" (for the second time) and I am sure I will be reading and re-reading this book. Congrats and count me in.
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Jason
Feb 3rd, 2009
16 comments

Hey Joe, I have never visited a blog as frequently as your blog. It's educational and informing. I am very excited about your new book. I will purchase a copy and enjoy it.
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Ola
Feb 4th, 2009

As I long time lurker, I thought I would take this opportunity to say congratulations on the book and to thank you for this site. This is the bloig I visit most frequently and its definately worth its weight in gold. Not sure when we'll be able to get the book here in the UK, but I will be on it as soon as it is available.

Congrats again!

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Jason
Feb 4th, 2009
16 comments

Also, what a fitting title for the times we're in. Congrats again.
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Sean Gajewski
Feb 4th, 2009
2 comments

Pre-ordered my copy 5 minutes ago..
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Sean Gajewski
Feb 4th, 2009
2 comments

Pre-ordered my copy 5 minutes ago..
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Edward Handrich
Feb 6th, 2009
4 comments

I have been waiting a long time for this. It will be a pleasant surprise when it comes in the mail 4 months from now.

Congradulations Joe, not only on the book, but for creating a website that actually educates people and makes it fun in the process. I've learned alot from this blog and I look forward to doing some reading on the beach this summer.

Thank you for everything you've done.
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Ola
Feb 7th, 2009
1 comment

Hope you could understand the shockingly badly written message above!!
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Widemoat
Feb 7th, 2009
5 comments

Congratulations! May it sell speedily and well! What's gonna be the sequel? ;)
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Joel
Feb 8th, 2009

Joe-

Are there any plans to make the book available for Kindle?
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Amit
Feb 9th, 2009

When's the Sequel coming Joe? lol ;)
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Edward Handrich
Feb 11th, 2009
4 comments

How about an audiobook version, narrated by Joe himself. That would be worth buying an iPod for.
Thanks, all, for the kind words. I'm very excited too!

I don't know if it will be available for Kindle. I will e-mail the publisher as soon as I'm done here, and I'll let you know when I do.

I'd self-publish an audio book, but I'd probably go off on ten thousand tangents and it would end up being a 500 hour podcast :)
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Jay
Feb 20th, 2009

Joe- As an client and frequent visitor of this site, I could not be more proud of the work you have done! I could not be more happy for you on your personal success as you have helped made me a success during this tough times. All the best with the book-- Any chance for an earlier release (like April 23rd?!?!?!)
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MikeR
May 14th, 2009

Just got my copy from AMZN. Actually I got two. I must have been so enthusiastic when I was ordering that I hit the add to order button twice, lol. That is ok, Joe deserves the extra sale! I am already into chapter 2.
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MikeR
May 14th, 2009

Joe, typo to fix for your second printing. Table on page 40 net cash generated for office 2 should be $140,000 not $40,000.
Jay: Don't know how I missed your comment, but April 23rd would have been nice! (Inside joke — sorry folks.)

MikeR: Good eye! Definitely a typo. I'll let the publisher know. Thanks!
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MikeR
May 16th, 2009

Joe, Page 99 3rd full paragraph, first line, $760 billion should be $760 million. Very much enjoyed the first 99 pages. Hope to get most of the rest read this weekend.
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MikeR
May 16th, 2009

Joe, JNJ example on pages 104-105. In the text you mention growth will slow to 6% for years 11-20, but in the table you list 5% in the growth rate column for years 11-20.
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Alex MacKinnon
May 16th, 2009
15 comments

Is the book still coming out June 9th?, or is it out early ? I want to get my hands on that thing!
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MikeR
May 17th, 2009

Alex,

I pre-ordered on AMZN and got my copy last week.

Joe,

Page 124 last full paragraph the g is left off the word (g)overnment. I know most of these typos are trivial and obvious, but I am assuming you want to find them for the second printing.
I guess that the book has shipped, though it isn't supposed to be out yet. The publisher said June 9th; Amazon lists June 18th. And yet some people have already finished reading it!

Thanks, MikeR, for your feedback. Clearly the editor missed these typos, though I'm certain that they found many more in my original work! As you find them, please feel free to keep listing them here!
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Rona
May 26th, 2009

Joe, thank you for this phenomenal book. It almost felt like this is value investing for "dummies". It provides a fresh perspective and talks about business at very personal level. This is extremely helpful for someone who wants to be a business investor, but lack real experience in running a business. There are many good value investing books, but yours provide so much more detail and good illustration of many important ideas.
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Steve
May 29th, 2009
3 comments

Purchased the book last week from Barnes and Noble and read it in three days. I enjoyed reading the book and have a few questions.

1) In your book you say on page 7 "Most mutual fund companies are paid based on how much money they manage rather than on how well they manage it." However, doesn't your investment firm Meridian Business Group do the same thing by charging a fee on how much money you manage? What is the difference?

2) Your book mostly focuses on businesses with stable growth. However, what would your opinion be of a company that has a market cap of 1B and FCF of 700M with declining FCF. The low market cap and high FCF make the company compelling however is this a cigar butt? This was a very profitable company for many years and then all of a sudden technology made it practically irrelevant. Is this another factor that we should take into account with investing, if future technology changes could possibly help or hurt the company?

3) Any thoughts on my previous post http://www.fwallstreet.co...
Rona: Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Steve: Great questions.
  1. Hands down, performance-only fees are the most "fair" way to compensate an advisor. Unfortunately, the law doesn't allow advisors to charge performance fees to most clients. (Clients have to be "qualified" with means $5 million in investments or some similar requirement.) The differences between us and mutual funds are numerous, but the big one in relation to your question is that we don't have a never-ending potential client and salesforce base to throw money at us. So long as the mutual funds keep Wall Street happy, those funds will find their way into portfolios and 401ks plans.

    It's true that we work off a performance-only fee for certain clients and an asset-based fee for non-qualified clients, but our asset-based fee is just 1% compared to the 1.61% charged by U.S. stock mutual funds in 2008 (excluding any additional fees those investors pay to brokers or advisors for putting them in those mutual funds). If we can't work on a performance-only basis for the client with $50,000 at our firm, I don't know of a better way to keep us accountable than asset-based fees.
  2. Every business has a value (even if that value is zero). The question on this business is: How much cash could I pull out of the business during its remaining life? For example, if the company will be obsolete in five years and will, at that point, close up shop, the price you pay today will determine your results. If the cash flow all goes to the "asset" side of the balance sheet and the business winds down in two years, ultimately liquidating everything, paying off obligations and debts, and distributing the remaining cash to shareholders, then the price you pay today for that cash determines your return.

    Let's say that the business shuts down in five years and pays out to shareholders $1 billion in net assets (say, $50 per share). The most you could pay today to earn 15% a year would be $25. Over five years, $25 to $50 is about 15% a year.

    In any investment, you have to figure out how much cash you, as an owner, could pull out during its remaining life. I don't know if I made that abundantly clear in the book, but I think that reading the book and this website should help clarify things. Let me know if that helps.
  3. Creating a short list of wonderful companies, watching them closely, and investing in them when they are cheap will only make you rich! That's exactly what people should do. As to your point on public vs. private, companies go public for a number of reasons — expansion financing, to allow the owner to cash out some of his otherwise illiquid investment, etc. Some publicly traded companies have superior economics and are run by wonderful managers; most are lacking in one or both of those areas.

    If you keep in mind that these are businesses, and that you can shun stocks and instead invest in private businesses, real estate, art, or anything else in the world of investment opportunities, you'll realize that there's no need to settle for mediocre stocks. Buy the best (or cheapest based on valuations) stocks, and leave the rest for the mutual fund managers. If you can't find opportunities in stocks, go buy an apartment building or dry cleaner. Make sense?
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