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Have You Read Buffett?

October 11, 2007  |  Joe Ponzio

By now we’ve all (should have) been to the Berkshire Hathaway site to read the various annual reports and letters to shareholders, and we all (should) have the Owner’s Manual memorized. When Warren Buffett writes something, we should listen. After all, the tone of his writings have gone from serious and secret to educational and fun-the musings of a man likely sitting at his desk, typing letters, and laughing because everyone reads them but few follow his billion dollar advice.

Let’s take a look at a 1984 article he wrote for Hermes-the Columbia Business School Magazine.

The Question

Is the Graham and Dodd “look for values with a significant margin of safety relative to prices” approach to security analysis out of date? Many of the professors who write textbooks today say “yes.” They argue that the stock market is efficient; that is, that stock prices reflect everything that is known about a company’s prospects and about the state of the economy. There are no undervalued stocks, these theorists argue, because there are smart security analysts who utilize all available information to insure unfailingly appropriate prices. Investors who seem to “beat the market” year after year are just lucky. “If prices fully reflect available information, this sort of investment adeptness is ruled out,” writes one of today’s textbook authors.

Buffett begins by examining a group “superinvestors”-but not in the traditional method of find-an-anomoly-and-backtest-and-publish; rather, he preselected these superinvestors more than fifteen years prior. His goal: Answer the above question, not just present one side or one approach to it.

The Graham, Dodd, & Buffett Zoo

Imagine that 225 million Americans joined a national coin flipping contest, each waging one dollar per flip. On one flip of the coin, those who call the flip correctly collect the dollar and advance to the next day. The losers drop out.

Each subsequent day, the stakes increase because the money pours over from day to day. According to Buffett’s estimation, roughly 220,000 contestants would remain after ten flips on ten mornings-each waving won a little over $1,000.

Now this group will probably start getting a little puffed up about this, human nature being what it is. They may try to be modest, but at cocktail parties they will occasionally admit to attractive members of the opposite sex what their technique is, and what marvelous insights they bring to the field of flipping.

Ten days later, only 215 people would have successfully called their coin flips 20 times in a row-each having turned $1 into $1 million.

But then some business school professor will probably be rude enough to bring up the fact that if 225 million orangutans had engaged in a similar exercise, the results would be much the same-215 egotistical orangutans with 20 straight winning flips.

And Buffett debunks the professor-correct in theory, but wrong in practice:

For one thing, if (a) you had taken 225 million orangutans distributed roughly as the U.S. population is; if (b) 215 winners were left after 20 days; and if (c) you found that 40 came from a particular zoo in Omaha, you would be pretty sure you were on to something. So you would probably go out and ask the zookeeper about what he’s feeding them, whether they had special exercises, what books they read, and who knows what else.

The Problem With Theory

Theories are great…on paper. In practice, it is a whole different ballgame. I’d be willing to bet my $1,000,000 rock that some brilliant statisticians have “cracked the markets”-have backtested a system that proves that the markets move on mathematical formulas or that it is possible (or impossible) to beat the markets.

In fact, I did it once. Using backtesting, I figured out a way to play the S&P 500 off the FTSE to “guarantee” a 0.5% return virtually every single day. Then, I ran that simulation (with play money) in real-time for six months. I lost my ass.

Case Studies

The article continues by presenting the audited histories of various superinvestors-all hailing from the then Graham-And-Dodd, now-Buffett school of investing. Walter J. Schloss-21.3% a year for 28+ years vs. 8.4% for the S&P; Tweedy, Brown, Inc.-20% for 15+ years vs. 7% for the S&P; Buffett-29.5% for 12+ years vs. 7.4% for the Dow; Sequoia Fund-18.2% for 14 years vs. 10% for the S&P.

The list goes on and on.

About Risk And Reward

I would like to say one important thing about risk and reward. Sometimes risk and reward are correlated in a positive fashion. If someone were to say to me, “I have here a six-shooter and I have slipped one cartridge into it. Why don’t you just spin it and pull it once? If you survive, I will give you $1 million.” I would decline-perhaps stating that $1 million is not enough. Then he might offer me $5 million to pull the trigger twice-now that would be a positive correlation between risk and reward!

While many advisers, news reporters, and Wall Street want you to believe that the same is true in the markets, I’m more inclined to believe Warren Buffett:

The exact opposite is true with value investing. If you buy a dollar bill for 60 cents, it’s riskier than if you buy a dollar bill for 40 cents, but the expectation of reward is greater in the latter case. The greater the potential for reward in the value portfolio, the less risk there is.

Great In Theory, But In Practice?

One quick example: The Washington Post Company in 1973 was selling for $80 million in the market. At the time, that day, you could have sold the assets to any one of ten buyers for not less than $400 million, probably appreciably more. The company owned the Post, Newsweek, plus several television stations in major markets. Those same properties are worth $2 billion now so the person who would have paid $400 million would not have been crazy.

Now, if the stock had declined even further to a price that made the valuation $40 million instead of $80 million, its beta would have been greater. And to people who think beta measures risk, the cheaper price would have made it look riskier. This is truly Alice in Wonderland. I have never been able to figure out why it’s riskier to buy $400 million worth of properties for $40 million than $80 million. And, as a matter of fact, if you buy a group of such securities and you know anything at all about business valuation, there is essentially no risk in buying $400 million for $80 million, particularly if you do it by buying ten $40 million piles for $8 million each. Since you don’t have your hands on the $400 million, you want to be sure you are in with honest and reasonably competent people, but that’s not a difficult job.

You also have to have the knowledge to enable you to make a very general estimate about the value of the underlying businesses. But you do not cut it close. That is what Ben Graham meant by having a margin of safety. You don’t try and buy businesses worth $83 million for $80 million. You leave yourself an enormous margin. When you build a bridge, you insist it can carry 30,000 pounds, but you only drive 10,000-pound trucks across it. And that same principle works in investing.

Nice Article. But If Everyone Does It, Will The Strategy Still Work?

In conclusion, some of the more commercially minded among you may wonder why I am writing this article. Adding many converts to the value approach will perforce narrow the spreads between price and value. I can only tell you that the secret has been out for 50 years, ever since Ben Graham and Dave Dodd wrote Security Analysis, yet I have seen no trend value investing in the 35 years I’ve practiced it. There seems to be some perverse human characteristic that likes to make easy things difficult. The academic world, if anything, has actually backed away from the teaching of value investing over the last 30 years. It’s likely to continue that way. Ships will sail around the world but the Flat Earth Society will flourish. There will continue to be wide discrepancies between price and value in the marketplace, and those who read their Graham & Dodd will continue to prosper.

Check out the full article here (article since taken offline or moved).

Joe Ponzio

By Joe Ponzio

October 11, 2007

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The Discussion
Allen
Allen
October 11, 2007 at 12:07pm

As a new investor this is a great read. I actually have worried that everyone will start valuing stocks approriately, since it makes so much sense. I guess that seems pretty absurd, given that the “secret” has been out for so long.

Interesting to me that Buffett seems to be defending value investing, or at least making sure people realize it isn’t luck. Skeptics will be skeptics, but the money talks. But I’m sure he’s realized that by now.

Nick
Nick
October 11, 2007 at 12:33pm

I feel that the main reason for people not adapting a “value” approach to investing is because, for the most part, you have to suffer through pro-longed periods of drought and sub-par returns. Most people lack the intestinal fortitude that it takes to succeed in this arena. That’s why you have to work on your character first, then make your bets. Hence the reason Joe keeps talking about the psychology of investing. Remember, you cannot spray paint rust. Your emotions will get the best of you if you haven’t mastered them first.

In other words, people lack the patience and the focus to do it successfully. So we probably will not see any trends toward value investing any time soon. Hooray for us!!

Casey Mattson
Casey Mattson
October 11, 2007 at 6:37pm

Great article. I think, if you have not already, read the “Mr. Market” analogy from Intelligent Investor on here too.

Also as Mr. Pabrai says, the ability to naval gaze is of utmost importance to be a sucessful investor. Something to that affect anyway.

I suspect that is why Buffett plays bridge. :) His mental distraction from stocks, otherwise his intellectual curiosity will get the best of him.

Anyone, want to start a bridge club? j/k

Casey

Sanjay Shetty
Sanjay Shetty
October 12, 2007 at 6:52am

I feel there are many reason why Value Investing isn’t and won’t be popular.

Firstly it’s very difficult for people to get the concept of buying a dollar for 50 cents, it’s like teaching a person to whistle, most are able to do it easily but some just are not able to whistle. Somehow when it comes to the stock market people are not able to understand that it’s actually buying into a company, not just pieces of paper. Moreover they don’t understand or believe that just like in the supermarket, companies in the stock market are sometimes available at bargain prices.

Second, Value investing involves numbers, now for those who are comfortable with numbers that’s nice, (though not a huge advantage, all folks on wall street supposedly understand numbers ;-) , however there are certain kinds of people, me included who find it a pain to go thru numbers in details, so I’m always finding shortcuts, like screeners which do the pain work, and reduce my workload, infact trying to write an excel based screener to run thru the S&P 500.

Third, most people are essentially gamblers, looking for the quick buck, the next Google (Or Netscape of the last Internet Boomtime). Infact recently some close family member asked me the question, the Indian market is booming should I buy xyz company? and I said I don’t have a clue about the company, but why are you looking at buying it, the reply was well my friend told me, and she keeps making money on the market. I asked, do you know what this company is about? and well, she obviously didn’t know enough to make an investment decision, however I could see her enthusiasim bursting thru the seams she just wanted to get a piece of the action(the booming stock market).

Just my 3 bits ;-)

Regards,

Sanjay Shetty

I blog at http://indiainvestor.wordpress.com/

Musicwhiz
Musicwhiz
October 14, 2007 at 5:45am

Hi there,

I did do a blog post to express my personal views on my own value investing blog at http://sgmusicwhiz.blogspot.com on why value investing is not popular. Kindly check it out if you have time.

Regards, Musicwhiz

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