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The Graham And Dodd Method

August 14, 2007  |  Joe Ponzio

In 1934, David Dodd and Benjamin Graham (Buffett’s teacher) wrote what would later be known as the foundation for value investing. Security Analysis knocked Wall Street for focusing on reported earnings and pointed the finger at the brokerages for dismissing their fiduciary responsibilities to clients, ultimately causing the Crash of 1929.

(In reading the latter section, if you didn’t know the book was from 1934, you would think he was describing the dot-com boom and bust of the early 2000s. It’s actually scary.)

I digress.

The Lessons

Graham and Dodd came up with a method for valuing stocks, primarily looking for deeply depressed prices. Graham and Dodd were looking for stocks that had a high earnings-to-price ration, a low P/E (based on its history), a high dividend yield, a price below its book and net current asset value.

In addition, they wanted to see total debt less than book value, a current ratio greater than two, earnings growth of at least 7% for the past ten years, and no more than a 5% decline in earnings in more than two of those ten years.

The Result

According to Fort Hays State University, the Graham-Dodd method (used by Graham & Dodd in the Graham-Newman hedge fund) produced an annual return to shareholders of 15.5% from 1945-1956. Not bad-except the S&P 500 returned 18.3% for that same period.

How Dare I!

I’m not knocking Graham. All I’m saying is that Graham himself, shortly before his death in 1976, said:

I am no longer an advocate of elaborate techniques of security analysis in order to find superior value opportunities. This was a rewarding activity, say, 40 years ago, when our textbook “Graham & Dodd” was first published; but the situation has changed…

KISS

Keep it simple. As Buffett says,

There seems to be some perverse human characteristic that likes to make easy things difficult…The business schools reward difficult complex behavior more than simple behavior, but simple behavior is more effective.

Think about that the next time you start to overanalyze a stock. If you have to think too hard about it, it probably isn’t worth your money.

 

Joe Ponzio

By Joe Ponzio

August 14, 2007

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The Discussion
Joseph
Joseph
August 14, 2007 at 12:59pm

Joe,

You talk about Keeping it Simple- but now a days nothing seems to be simple for the casual investor like myself? What 2 or 3 things should I be looking at when determining if I should be investing in a company?

August 14, 2007 at 7:55pm

Hi Joseph,

Great businesses steadily increase owner earnings and net worth and can stand on their own two feet without needing additional capital from outside sources (selling stock, assuming debt, etc.)

What should you look for? Start with:

1) Steadily increasing owner earnings;

2) Steadily increasing shareholder equity;

3) Low relative capital expenditures for maintenance of operations.

Find those businesses and you’ll be on your way. Hope that helps!

Pakorn
Pakorn
August 16, 2007 at 7:24pm

I think that the key word for finding the stok to invest is “business model” what the company do or sell, how does it stand in the market, it positioing. what it do or choose not to do. All of that must reflected to increased ower earning and cash flow.

paolo
paolo
October 11, 2007 at 9:06am

Joe:

Where did you get the 1976 Graham quote? That is fascinating! He is quoted or referred to extensively by investors/journalists, but I’ve never seen anybody else mention that before. I’m interested in seeing the full context.

Reason being, I’ve tried a few times to get through Chapter 1 of Security Analysis, but if Graham is “recanting” maybe I should move that further down my reading list.

October 11, 2007 at 11:04am

Graham said this in an interview with Financial Analysts Journal. You can see the full interview here.

The full quote:

Interviewer: In selecting the common stock portfolio, do you advise careful study of and selectivity among different issues?

Graham:

In general, no. I am no longer an advocate of elaborate techniques of security analysis in order to find superior value opportunities. This was a rewarding activity, say, 40 years ago, when our textbook “Graham and Dodd” was first published; but the situation has changed a great deal since then. In the old days any well-trained security analyst could do a good professional job of selecting undervalued issues through detailed studies; but in the light of the enormous amount of research now being carried on, I doubt whether in most cases such extensive efforts will generate sufficiently superior selections to justify their cost. To that very limited extent I’m on the side of the “efficient market” school of thought now generally accepted by the professors.

(When asked to expand on one of his approaches):

This is similar to the first in its underlying philosophy. It consists of buying groups of stocks at less than their current or intrinsic value as indicated by one or more simple criteria…They consistently show results of 15 per cent or better per annum, or twice the record of the DJIA for this long period. I have every confidence in the threefold merit of this general method based on (a) sound logic, (b) simplicity of application, and (c) an excellent supporting record. At bottom it is a technique by which true investors can exploit the recurrent excessive optimism and excessive apprehension of the speculative public.

Hope that helps!

Jmoney
Jmoney
March 19, 2008 at 3:44pm

Joe:

Are you familiar with Fort Hays State University? That is my alma mater and the site you linked to was produced by my former advisor.

I just thought it was interesting. FHSU is a relatively unknown school in Western Kansas.

March 19, 2008 at 8:16pm

Jmoney,

Beyond the name, I’m not familiar with the school. Google helped me out on that one. ☺

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