BreitBurn Energy: Playing the Commodities Crash
February 2, 2010 | Joe Ponzio | about: BBEP
And the blogging returns. Thanks all for your patience. It has been a wild few months, between market crashes and rebounds, a business “split” so that my partner and I could each focus on our core competencies (yes, it was friendly; and, no, there’s no juicy back story), and so much more.
Late in December, SeekingAlpha asked me to do an interview about my “highest conviction pick” in our portfolios. Surprisingly, it was a tough interview because I felt good about all of our positions. (The only position that had me biting my nails was Jackson Hewitt, which we ended up dumping around $4 when it seemed clear that they would not get RAL funding. A discussion for another day.)
In any event, the interview was just published today. The summary:
When natural gas prices plunged to $3 in September, RIA Joe Ponzio looked for a producer with “strong enough management, economics, and liquidity to survive a deep, prolonged downturn in the underlying commodity.” He found this mid-cap company fit the bill, and while the stock has run up some since then, it remains his highest conviction holding…
For further reading on BreitBurn, you can download these two pages (PDF, 190kb) from my quarterly letter to clients of Ponzio Capital.
Due to the number of sites that reprint my articles, I typically only respond to comments on F Wall Street. For this particular article, I’ll also be responding to comments on SeekingAlpha; so, feel free to chime in on either site.
Filed under: Companies Analyzed (Generals)
Related Stocks: BBEP
Hey Joe,
Excellent analysis of Breitburn, although I don’t understand the balance sheet well enough to invest.
Just a slight nitpick I have with your valuation technique: I’ve noticed that in all of your spreadsheets, you add owner’s equity to the discounted cash flows to arrive at the total intrinsic value. I believe this is wrong. The original owner’s equity should be added to the cash flow of the last year, and then the entire amount should be discounted back to present value.
Your valuation method produces strange results. For instance, a business with $1 million dollars in equity, earning a 1% rate of return is worth more than $1 million dollars. In reality, $1 million dollars worth of equity earning a below market rate of return is worth less than $1 million dollars. Similarly, a bond earning 1% on principle is going to decrease in value when interest rates rise to 5%.
-Adam Gaglio
reasoninvestor.wordpress.com
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Hey Joe
Where can I look up historical charts for gas prices and other commodities? Thank you in advance.
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joe, any thoughts on jackson hewitt? what were the risks that played out in your mind when you decided to dump the shares? thanks.
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A couple comments regarding BBEP’s latest communication with shareholders:
* 2009 production just about equaled 2008 production even though capex was drastically cut in 09
* PV10 of reserves with conservative energy price estimates is $760m
* $195m in “adjusted ebitda” for 2009 -> ~$160m after adding back interest and taxes
* Resuming maintenance and growth capex.
So long as natural gas prices recover in the next few years, BBEP is still undervalued.
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Does anyone have problems with using Excel 2003 spreadsheet ? While I can display the default (KO), anytime I try to run the analyzer, I run into all kinds of issues. The first error I get is 438 , stepping into debugger highlights this line. .ThemeColor = xlThemeColorLight1. I removed these lines and proceeded, but it wouldn’t calculate the cells and all fails at AVERAGEIF (which I think is an excel 2007 function)
Thanks
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Is ‘Excess Cash’ on the spreadsheet the same as ‘Cash And Cash Equivalents’ on the Balance Sheet? Thank you Joe!
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Though it’s probably too small for Joe to invest in, what do you guys think about AMS? I do a real rough write up on it here:http://reasoninvestor.wor...
I know I’m a broken record, but fwallstreet really needs a forum. It’s the only place on the net with a readership of real value investors! If only we could throw stock ideas around with each other…
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Hey Jason,
Their balance sheet is certainly the biggest issue for me. However, I don’t think the equity number has much to do with the valuation of a business if that business is producing cash (and not just selling off inventories and other balance sheet assets). They do have a fair amount of debt.
I’m not sure where you’re getting your FCF number, but since they haven’t released the 10-k for 2009, we can go off the trailing 12 months in which case FCF is 6.5 million (http://quicktake.mornings...;Symbol=AMS), however I believe owner earnings to be about 4.5 million. They have lost 5 of their 19 contracts, resigned for one of those, and added a new one in puerto rico (where they will be the only Gamma Knife machine). That means they are down 3 contracts. This is going to cause a slight decrease in cash flow generation, but long term, I really think this is just a bump in the road. They have had other years of losing contracts, but they make them up in other years. let’s be conservative and say the company can only generate 2 million in cash for its remaining life. The company is still worth 20 million meaning it is at a 40% margin of safety.
Then you have the Still Rivers system, which is basically a new and improved Gamma Knife machine that uses protons, not gamma. I think it would be better for you to research it than for me to explain its impact in the market, but AMS has three contracts pending for such machines should it get FDA approval.
Now, I’m not one to gamble on whether some high flying Med company is going to get FDA approval, but my point is that this doesn’t need Still Rivers to be a deal right now.
Also, I don’t know where you get your cost of debt number from. AMS has paid no more than 2.5 million a year in interest on its debt for the past three years (http://finance.yahoo.com/...;annual).
-Adam
reasoninvestor.wordpress.com
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Great site and comments.
I am trying to run and understand the analyzer but am not an Excel wizard by any stretch of the imagination. From what I can tell, the median/growth rate (cell B27) is derived from the average CROIC of the past ten years. However, this rate is then applied to the 2009 revenue numbers which wildly inflates future estimates of revenue. For example, the default KO revenues go from a 2007-2009 range of around $30 billion to being compounded by 23% year-over-year for 10 years, so that by 2019 they are $245.5 billion. Can someone suggest a fix?
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Hey Jason,
Yeah, you’re right. I think the company is still undervalued, but you bring up some great points. It may not be the best play right now.
Joe,
I think you should take a look at this post on my blog. I explain the potential issues with your valuation model undervaluing companies with high returns on equity and how that problem manifested itself in your evaluation of Buffett/Coca-Cola.
I understand that you’ve really got your investment/valuation method down, but I think that you’re missing out by not using a better model. You’re not going to miss any bargains because we both only invest in no-brainers. However, why fog up the valuation?
Anyways, the post is here: http://reasoninvestor.wor...
-Adam
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Glad to see you back.
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