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	<title>Comments on: Free Cash Flow vs. Owner Earnings</title>
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		<title>By: Paultracy</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>Paultracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great content Joe! I&#039;d like to share some information about free cash flow http://investinganswers.com/term/free-cash-flow-1000 with you, hope it will help you in your work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great content Joe! I&#8217;d like to share some information about free cash flow <a href="http://investinganswers.com/term/free-cash-flow-1000" rel="nofollow">http://investinganswers.com/term/free-cash-flow-1000</a> with you, hope it will help you in your work!</p>
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		<title>By: BPal</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-3073</link>
		<dc:creator>BPal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question:  in your book you talk about reviewing &quot;middler&quot; and &quot;small fish&quot; companies and state you like to review and update your intrinsic value on a quarterly basis for these types of companies.  Do you use TTM figures to update your analysis or do you annualize quarterly data?  Just curious how you take this quarterly data and make it comparable to your annual CROIC and Free Cash flow growth analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question:  in your book you talk about reviewing &#8220;middler&#8221; and &#8220;small fish&#8221; companies and state you like to review and update your intrinsic value on a quarterly basis for these types of companies.  Do you use TTM figures to update your analysis or do you annualize quarterly data?  Just curious how you take this quarterly data and make it comparable to your annual CROIC and Free Cash flow growth analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: tc lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>tc lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BPal-

It depends on how the company recognizes revenue. Many companies recognize revenue at the point of sale as Joe pointed out, though some recognize it at delivery and some when cash changes hands. What&#039;s beautiful (in my opinion) about Joe&#039;s book is that he makes you think about these things, unlike almost every other investment book I&#039;ve read. (It&#039;s like a &quot;Security Analysis for Dummies&quot; book.) I don&#039;t think Joe once said, &quot;Buy low PE stocks.&quot;

I paused when I read the capital expenditures part too. For future editions, Joe may want to clarify for us analytical types. As he seems to really know his stuff, I assumed that he wasn&#039;t talking about painting a machine or recaulking a seal but about upgrading or otherwise extending the life of machines and equipment. Without a background in accounting, someone may not come to the same conclusion as I did.

I think that BPal and I may have looked at the text a little to critically, but Joe could have clarified a bit as well. I wouldn&#039;t say he got the accounting &quot;wrong&quot; so much as I&#039;d say that the accounting is a little basic for CPAs. Still a must read for everyone in my opinion, and I learned a lot even with my background in accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BPal-</p>
<p>It depends on how the company recognizes revenue. Many companies recognize revenue at the point of sale as Joe pointed out, though some recognize it at delivery and some when cash changes hands. What&#8217;s beautiful (in my opinion) about Joe&#8217;s book is that he makes you think about these things, unlike almost every other investment book I&#8217;ve read. (It&#8217;s like a &#8220;Security Analysis for Dummies&#8221; book.) I don&#8217;t think Joe once said, &#8220;Buy low PE stocks.&#8221;</p>
<p>I paused when I read the capital expenditures part too. For future editions, Joe may want to clarify for us analytical types. As he seems to really know his stuff, I assumed that he wasn&#8217;t talking about painting a machine or recaulking a seal but about upgrading or otherwise extending the life of machines and equipment. Without a background in accounting, someone may not come to the same conclusion as I did.</p>
<p>I think that BPal and I may have looked at the text a little to critically, but Joe could have clarified a bit as well. I wouldn&#8217;t say he got the accounting &#8220;wrong&#8221; so much as I&#8217;d say that the accounting is a little basic for CPAs. Still a must read for everyone in my opinion, and I learned a lot even with my background in accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: BPal</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-3070</link>
		<dc:creator>BPal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - I got your book and was reading it this weekend.  So far very well written and informative!  I do have two comments that I came across that I thought I&#039;d point out in case there will be further editions printed.  In the chapter on how to value a business, you mention that in accounting - the business would recognize the sale when the purchase order was signed, which might be a few months before delivery and a 6 months before the customer pays.  This isn&#039;t exactly true, the accounting rules won&#039;t allow the business to recognize revenue until the product was delivered, not when the contract is signed. 

 

Also, the next section covers expenses and talks about $10,000 in repairs to equipment that get capitalized on the balance sheet and amortized.  This also isn&#039;t exactly correct.  The accounting rules would not allow repairs to be capitalized.  They are expensed as incurred.  Only new purchases, construction costs (if the equipment is built in house), or items added to existing machinery that improves its value can be capitalized, not repairs.  I think you were trying to highlight maintenance capex versus growth capex, but you got some of the exact accounting wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; I got your book and was reading it this weekend.  So far very well written and informative!  I do have two comments that I came across that I thought I&#8217;d point out in case there will be further editions printed.  In the chapter on how to value a business, you mention that in accounting &#8211; the business would recognize the sale when the purchase order was signed, which might be a few months before delivery and a 6 months before the customer pays.  This isn&#8217;t exactly true, the accounting rules won&#8217;t allow the business to recognize revenue until the product was delivered, not when the contract is signed. </p>
<p>Also, the next section covers expenses and talks about $10,000 in repairs to equipment that get capitalized on the balance sheet and amortized.  This also isn&#8217;t exactly correct.  The accounting rules would not allow repairs to be capitalized.  They are expensed as incurred.  Only new purchases, construction costs (if the equipment is built in house), or items added to existing machinery that improves its value can be capitalized, not repairs.  I think you were trying to highlight maintenance capex versus growth capex, but you got some of the exact accounting wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahson</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-3005</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe,

I am very interested in getting my hands on this report, but I see that the link directs to your book.  However, in your book I do not see any mention of FCF vs OE.  I wanted to know how I could go about purchasing the report now.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>I am very interested in getting my hands on this report, but I see that the link directs to your book.  However, in your book I do not see any mention of FCF vs OE.  I wanted to know how I could go about purchasing the report now.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Kutney</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-2608</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Kutney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Buffett&#039;s &#039;Secret&#039; Investment Formula

Below is a link to an article on SeekingAlpha.com which I think will be of interest to FWallStreet readers.

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Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffett&#8217;s &#8216;Secret&#8217; Investment Formula</p>
<p>Below is a link to an article on SeekingAlpha.com which I think will be of interest to FWallStreet readers.</p>
<p><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/116282-warren-buffett-s-secret-investment-formula?source=feed" title="http://seekingalpha.com/article/116282-warren-buffett-s-secret-investment-formula?source=feed" target="blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/a.." rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/a..</a>.</p>
<p>Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-2455</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason, 

When I purchased it, Joe sent me the report within 48 hrs of purchase. If you have purchased it and haven&#039;t received it, i wouldn&#039;t worry, it probably means that Joe hasn&#039;t gotten around to checking his e-mail, he seems to be a busy guy. 

Enjoy the read, it&#039;s great to have around. 

IT&#039;S WORTH THE 20 BONES! (This is a very fair price for what you get) 

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason, </p>
<p>When I purchased it, Joe sent me the report within 48 hrs of purchase. If you have purchased it and haven&#8217;t received it, i wouldn&#8217;t worry, it probably means that Joe hasn&#8217;t gotten around to checking his e-mail, he seems to be a busy guy. </p>
<p>Enjoy the read, it&#8217;s great to have around. </p>
<p>IT&#8217;S WORTH THE 20 BONES! (This is a very fair price for what you get) </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-2454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long did you guys have to wait for the report after purchasing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long did you guys have to wait for the report after purchasing?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-2203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Just wondering if you were thinking about lowering the price on the report at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Just wondering if you were thinking about lowering the price on the report at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit D.</title>
		<link>http://www.fwallstreet.com/article/145-free-cash-flow-vs-owner-earnings#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend purchased it with his credit card for me, and so far, I see how clever Joe&#039;s work remains, 20$ your generous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend purchased it with his credit card for me, and so far, I see how clever Joe&#8217;s work remains, 20$ your generous!</p>
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